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		<title>By: Hugh Yeman</title>
		<link>http://bettercalltyrone.com/2010/01/12/avatar-beyond-the-hype/#comment-70</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice post. I saw Avatar for the third time last night and am on my way into Manhattan to pick up my Little Brother to see it with him, so obviously I&#039;m a huge fan.

Not only did I love the film, but I found myself having a rare reaction to the criticism I heard. Usually I&#039;m a very even-minded guy: you&#039;ll he&#039;s me say &quot;Yes, I liked it, but I understand the criticism.&quot;, or vice-versa. In this case however, I feel that almost all the criticism I read was flat-out unfair and wrong.

Criticism 1: The noble savage theme. OK, usually I&#039;d agree with you. But in this case, Cameron brilliantly sidestepped the condescending noble savage motif with all its pseudo-mystical glorification. There was nothing pseudo-mystical or even mystical about the Na&#039;vi. They were not &quot;connected to their planet in a great web of life&quot;. They were LITERALLY connected to their planet in a great web of life. They were a component in a planetary USB network. This rock-solid literalism was key to the work being respectful rather than condescending, but of course the foaming-at-the-mouth PC wankers who jump at the chance to yell &quot;FOUL! White people being condescending to indigenous peoples!&quot; blew right by that nuance.

Criticism 2: Bad acting and bad dialogue. OK, maybe I&#039;m a lowbrow, but I&#039;ve seen it three times and I cannot point to a line I do not accept as something a human being would say in that situation. I don&#039;t understand the criticism except to speculate that maybe people have come to expect spoken dialogue to sound like polished writing. Well guess what? People do NOT talk in a way that remotely resembles polished writing. People talk in halting, awkward sentence fragments. People speak inelegantly. And yeah, sometimes people as corny things.

Criticism 3: It&#039;s a story that&#039;s been told before/it&#039;s like Dances With Wolves/it was predictable. Um... WHAT??? Are you saying that we don&#039;t get to tell the same story over? For fuck&#039;s sake we&#039;re HUMAN BEINGS. We tell stories. We tell the SAME stories OVER AND OVER AGAIN WITH VARIATIONS. I mean, did anyone in thirteenth century Scandanavia piss and moan because a scaldic bard was telling the same story around the fire at the mead hall that had been told around the fire at mead halls for well over four hundred years? Did anyone say &quot;Oh my GAWD, that story was, like, SO derivative! And PREDICTABLE!! I totally knew Harold Bluetooth was going to win!&quot; Get off your goddamned high horse.

Criticism 4: It was too long. I don&#039;t know - all I can say is that it kept me on the edge of my seat the first time, and I wasn&#039;t bored the third time. And I&#039;m looking forward to a fourth viewing

Thanks for providing a good place for me to vent. It pisses me off when critics and pundits and sanctimonious stuffed-shirt PC culture police wannabes try to throw a wrench into the simple joy of a good story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post. I saw Avatar for the third time last night and am on my way into Manhattan to pick up my Little Brother to see it with him, so obviously I&#8217;m a huge fan.</p>
<p>Not only did I love the film, but I found myself having a rare reaction to the criticism I heard. Usually I&#8217;m a very even-minded guy: you&#8217;ll he&#8217;s me say &#8220;Yes, I liked it, but I understand the criticism.&#8221;, or vice-versa. In this case however, I feel that almost all the criticism I read was flat-out unfair and wrong.</p>
<p>Criticism 1: The noble savage theme. OK, usually I&#8217;d agree with you. But in this case, Cameron brilliantly sidestepped the condescending noble savage motif with all its pseudo-mystical glorification. There was nothing pseudo-mystical or even mystical about the Na&#8217;vi. They were not &#8220;connected to their planet in a great web of life&#8221;. They were LITERALLY connected to their planet in a great web of life. They were a component in a planetary USB network. This rock-solid literalism was key to the work being respectful rather than condescending, but of course the foaming-at-the-mouth PC wankers who jump at the chance to yell &#8220;FOUL! White people being condescending to indigenous peoples!&#8221; blew right by that nuance.</p>
<p>Criticism 2: Bad acting and bad dialogue. OK, maybe I&#8217;m a lowbrow, but I&#8217;ve seen it three times and I cannot point to a line I do not accept as something a human being would say in that situation. I don&#8217;t understand the criticism except to speculate that maybe people have come to expect spoken dialogue to sound like polished writing. Well guess what? People do NOT talk in a way that remotely resembles polished writing. People talk in halting, awkward sentence fragments. People speak inelegantly. And yeah, sometimes people as corny things.</p>
<p>Criticism 3: It&#8217;s a story that&#8217;s been told before/it&#8217;s like Dances With Wolves/it was predictable. Um&#8230; WHAT??? Are you saying that we don&#8217;t get to tell the same story over? For fuck&#8217;s sake we&#8217;re HUMAN BEINGS. We tell stories. We tell the SAME stories OVER AND OVER AGAIN WITH VARIATIONS. I mean, did anyone in thirteenth century Scandanavia piss and moan because a scaldic bard was telling the same story around the fire at the mead hall that had been told around the fire at mead halls for well over four hundred years? Did anyone say &#8220;Oh my GAWD, that story was, like, SO derivative! And PREDICTABLE!! I totally knew Harold Bluetooth was going to win!&#8221; Get off your goddamned high horse.</p>
<p>Criticism 4: It was too long. I don&#8217;t know &#8211; all I can say is that it kept me on the edge of my seat the first time, and I wasn&#8217;t bored the third time. And I&#8217;m looking forward to a fourth viewing</p>
<p>Thanks for providing a good place for me to vent. It pisses me off when critics and pundits and sanctimonious stuffed-shirt PC culture police wannabes try to throw a wrench into the simple joy of a good story.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Rowe</title>
		<link>http://bettercalltyrone.com/2010/01/12/avatar-beyond-the-hype/#comment-67</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James Cameron is Canadian.  I am also a  proud Canadian.  Can you imagine how different Avatar would have been if it had been directed by an American?  Kudos to Cameron for having the guts to open our eyes to the violent, entitlist attitude that the U.S. is becoming globally known for.  I have not heard of any threats to James Cameron, but you know that if an American had written &amp; directed Avatar he would be accused of being an Anti-American traitor and would received multiple death threats.  Look what happened to the Dixie Chicks during the Bush Administration (it astounds me that the majority of the American people were so unintelligently duped into re-electing Bush to a second term).  Oil was Bush&#039;s &quot;unobtainium&quot;, and he nearly bankruped America and sent thousands of soldiers to their deaths to protect the American people&#039;s &quot;entitlement&quot; to our planet&#039;s resources.
I also read that the Vatican is upset over Avatar because it focuses on worshipping nature rather than religion.  Which do they think came first?  Religion is a man made entity, one which has caused countless wars and acts of atrocity in the name of God.  How many people did the Catholic Church burn at the stake or have ostracized for not thinking their way (anyone still believe the earth is flat?).  If God created everything, and everthing is connected, then is not respecting nature also respecting God?  The Vatican needs to stop harouring child molesting priests and get it&#039;s head out of its backside.  I&#039;m done ranting now.  Please, no death theats.  I&#039;m a peaceful Canadian and we really do have freedom of speech.  
James Cameron has given us all something to think about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Cameron is Canadian.  I am also a  proud Canadian.  Can you imagine how different Avatar would have been if it had been directed by an American?  Kudos to Cameron for having the guts to open our eyes to the violent, entitlist attitude that the U.S. is becoming globally known for.  I have not heard of any threats to James Cameron, but you know that if an American had written &amp; directed Avatar he would be accused of being an Anti-American traitor and would received multiple death threats.  Look what happened to the Dixie Chicks during the Bush Administration (it astounds me that the majority of the American people were so unintelligently duped into re-electing Bush to a second term).  Oil was Bush&#8217;s &#8220;unobtainium&#8221;, and he nearly bankruped America and sent thousands of soldiers to their deaths to protect the American people&#8217;s &#8220;entitlement&#8221; to our planet&#8217;s resources.<br />
I also read that the Vatican is upset over Avatar because it focuses on worshipping nature rather than religion.  Which do they think came first?  Religion is a man made entity, one which has caused countless wars and acts of atrocity in the name of God.  How many people did the Catholic Church burn at the stake or have ostracized for not thinking their way (anyone still believe the earth is flat?).  If God created everything, and everthing is connected, then is not respecting nature also respecting God?  The Vatican needs to stop harouring child molesting priests and get it&#8217;s head out of its backside.  I&#8217;m done ranting now.  Please, no death theats.  I&#8217;m a peaceful Canadian and we really do have freedom of speech.<br />
James Cameron has given us all something to think about.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan mckillop</title>
		<link>http://bettercalltyrone.com/2010/01/12/avatar-beyond-the-hype/#comment-66</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amazing post!! My thoughts exactly good Job]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing post!! My thoughts exactly good Job</p>
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